{"id":1551,"date":"2011-08-31T19:22:10","date_gmt":"2011-08-31T19:22:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.multiplier-effect.org\/?p=1551"},"modified":"2011-08-31T19:25:13","modified_gmt":"2011-08-31T19:25:13","slug":"stimulus-funds-pens-and-socks-where-do-they-go","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/stimulus-funds-pens-and-socks-where-do-they-go\/","title":{"rendered":"Stimulus funds, pens, and socks: where do they go?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>All to the same place? You might be excused for thinking so after perusing Tyler Cowen&#8217;s post <a href=\"http:\/\/marginalrevolution.com\/marginalrevolution\/2011\/08\/why-didnt-the-stimulus-create-more-jobs.html\" target=\"_blank\">Why didn\u2019t the stimulus create more jobs?<\/a>, but you would be wrong. First let&#8217;s look at Cowen&#8217;s post for some obvious red flags. About the number of people hired using stimulus funds who were already employed, Cowen says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You can tell a story about how hiring the already employed opened up other jobs for the unemployed, but it\u2019s just that \u2014 a story.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it is what happened in most cases, rather firms ended up getting by with fewer workers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>OK, so the substance of this is he doesn&#8217;t like one story, he prefers another. I quite understand why, Cowen being who he is. I happen to like the other story, myself. However, one might want actual proof rather than preferences (dear as they are to neo-classical economists).<\/p>\n<p>A second point requires reading the <a href=\"http:\/\/mercatus.org\/publication\/no-such-thing-shovel-ready\" target=\"_blank\">two<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/mercatus.org\/publication\/did-stimulus-dollars-hire-unemployed\" target=\"_blank\">studies<\/a> Cowen refers to. Cowen says that &#8220;There are lots of relevant details in the paper but here is one punchline: &#8216;hiring people from unemployment was more the exception than the rule in our interviews.'&#8221; Interesting choice. Especially given that the <em>first<\/em> bullet point in their summary of results is: &#8220;ARRA funds led to worker hiring and retention.&#8221; And that is the point after all. The question of whether the ARRA funds went to directly hire unemployed workers or not is mostly beside the point.<\/p>\n<p>The question that matters in job terms is: how many more people were employed because of the ARRA spending than would have been without it? It&#8217;s a question we can&#8217;t know the answer to, because we will never know what would&#8217;ve happened without the stimulus. The insinuation in Cowen&#8217;s post is that for a variety of reasons the stimulus wasn&#8217;t that stimulative. The proof offered is that Cowen doesn&#8217;t think workers hired away from other jobs were replaced, or that (from the paper itself, now) wages were mandated to be too high: &#8220;38.2 percent [of &#8220;organizations required to pay prevailing wages&#8221;] thought that they could have hired workers at wages below the Davis-Bacon prevailing wage.&#8221; The latter point misses the point of stimulus: its <em>multiplier effect<\/em> (where have I seen that phrase before?). The number of jobs directly created or saved by the stimulus isn&#8217;t the whole story. Those workers, having non-zero rather than zero money in their pockets, will spend more, saving or creating other jobs, and so on.<\/p>\n<p>A final &#8220;damning&#8221; conclusion from the paper: &#8220;[h]iring isn\u2019t the same as net job creation.&#8221; Indeed. But net job creation is never actually dealt with in the paper, let alone net job creation\/saving relative to no stimulus. For an estimate of job creation under the first three years of the stimulus, you could look at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.levyinstitute.org\/publications\/?docid=1158\">this paper<\/a> (self-serving, isn&#8217;t it?).<\/p>\n<p>I sometimes wonder whether folks who think stimulus spending has little to no effect (or a negative effect!) on employment think the money is just piled up on the White House lawn for President Obama to (gleefully, I&#8217;m assuming in this fantasy) toss a lit match onto.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All to the same place? You might be excused for thinking so after perusing Tyler Cowen&#8217;s post Why didn\u2019t the stimulus create more jobs?, but you would be wrong. First let&#8217;s look at Cowen&#8217;s post for some obvious red flags. About the number of people hired using stimulus funds who were already employed, Cowen says: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":198,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,3,49],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1551","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economic-policy","category-employment","category-fiscal-policy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1551","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/198"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1551"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1551\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1559,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1551\/revisions\/1559"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1551"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1551"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1551"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}