{"id":13088,"date":"2016-04-25T12:29:18","date_gmt":"2016-04-25T16:29:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/?p=13088"},"modified":"2016-04-25T12:36:38","modified_gmt":"2016-04-25T16:36:38","slug":"dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent\/","title":{"rendered":"Dear Time Magazine Readers, the United States Is Not Insolvent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is apparently the latest cover of <em>Time<\/em> magazine:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent\/zombie-time-magazine-cover\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13089\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13089 size-medium aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/files\/2016\/04\/Zombie-Time-Magazine-Cover-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Zombie Time Magazine Cover\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Zombie-Time-Magazine-Cover-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Zombie-Time-Magazine-Cover.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The idea that the US government or the nation as a whole is &#8220;insolvent&#8221; has an undying appeal. The fear of (or yearning for) some manner\u00a0of\u00a0budget\u00a0crisis has waned somewhat over the last couple of years (one <em>hopes<\/em>\u00a0this is\u00a0due\u00a0to the fact that\u00a0most people alive today have never lived through a period in which the deficit has shrunk so rapidly), but stories like this will never go away.<\/p>\n<p>The 25th Minsky conference wrapped up\u00a0recently (video of all the speakers\u00a0is\u00a0posted <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCmvJCmiT1N4-5Zl2tnBTEYA\">here<\/a>), and in one of the sessions Stephanie Kelton delivered a presentation in which she argued that, in contrast\u00a0to almost any other area of policy, there is\u00a0one issue on which Democrats and Republicans agree: a public\u00a0debt crisis is looming. In addition to some disagreement over when the\u00a0crisis will strike\u00a0(hawks: yesterday; doves: in a decade or so), they differ merely\u00a0on the question of how to solve this perceived problem: by cutting spending or\u00a0raising revenue. This broader moment of bipartisan consensus, Kelton argued, is tarnished only by being wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Among her efforts\u00a0to dispel the appeal of the debt crisis narrative, Kelton pointed\u00a0out that US government deficits are the mirror image of non-government surpluses (domestic private sector surpluses plus current account deficits), with a nod to\u00a0what\u00a0Goldman Sachs&#8217; Jan Hatzius once\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/goldmans-jan-hatzius-on-sectoral-balances-2012-12\">described<\/a>\u00a0as\u00a0&#8220;the world&#8217;s most important chart.&#8221; The upshot, she argued, is that calling for a reduction of public sector deficits in the presence of persistent current account deficits should be understood as calling\u00a0for a reduction of the private sector&#8217;s surpluses. Kelton put together the following chart, which flips the script on the Simpson-Bowles-era discussions of how rapidly we should bring down the budget deficit:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent\/kelton_flip-the-script_minsky-conference\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13176\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13176\" src=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/files\/2016\/04\/Kelton_Flip-the-Script_Minsky-Conference.png\" alt=\"Kelton_Flip the Script_Minsky Conference\" width=\"471\" height=\"349\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Kelton_Flip-the-Script_Minsky-Conference.png 668w, https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Kelton_Flip-the-Script_Minsky-Conference-300x222.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 471px) 100vw, 471px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Ask the same question now. Now the graph doesn\u2019t show the path of projected government deficits, but instead the path of projected non-government surpluses. So the question becomes how rapidly would you like to reduce the non-government surplus? You want to do it really quickly, follow the blue line; just bring surpluses down very sharply. Would you like to reduce the surpluses in the non-government sector more slowly, a more gradual approach. Or would you like to rethink this exercise all together because you think it\u2019s madness that a policy objective is to reduce non-government surpluses? [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>In other words, their red ink is our black ink. And setting out to reduce budget deficits by $4.1 trillion over the next ten years is the same as saying my goal is to reduce the non-government surplus by 4.1 trillion over the next ten years. One might sound reasonable and the other sounds like madness, but it\u2019s the same thing said two different ways.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Watch her presentation (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.levyinstitute.org\/conferences\/minsky2016\/kelton_s4.pdf\">slides here<\/a>):<\/p>\n\n<!-- iframe plugin v.6.0 wordpress.org\/plugins\/iframe\/ -->\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"427\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PadIPCEsbGA?;start=55\" frameborder=\"0\" 0=\"allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;\/iframe\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\"><\/iframe>\n\n<p>Two other speakers at the conference mentioned a different, perfectly orthodox reason to stop worrying about a\u00a0US\u00a0public debt crisis. Even if you&#8217;re convinced that a debt ratio of the size predicted by the Congressional Budget Office&#8217;s long-run budget forecast represents a threat, there are reasons to doubt that we&#8217;re destined\u00a0to reach that level.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>One of the gimmicks used to channel budget hysteria into preexisting\u00a0policy prescriptions\u00a0is to describe &#8220;entitlements&#8221; as the major source of the debt crisis (step two: call for raising the full retirement age for Social Security, or some such). The problem with this approach, as many deficits doves have pointed out, is that there&#8217;s no such thing as a program called &#8220;entitlements&#8221; &#8212; the budget math behind Social Security and Medicare are quite different. Social Security features a fairly predictable rise in the gap between dedicated revenues and spending, due to demographics. For Medicare, the story is mainly about healthcare cost inflation. And now even that story is already out of date, given the recent slowdown in healthcare inflation. But there&#8217;s another factor. Whenever\u00a0the CBO releases its budget outlook, look for the projected <a href=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/another-way-of-reading-the-cbo-report\/\"><em>primary\u00a0<\/em>deficit<\/a>\u00a025 years out, or whenever is the relevant period about which we&#8217;re supposed to panic.<\/p>\n<p>When you do this, you see that one of the last remaining foundations of the &#8220;debt crisis&#8221; story &#8212; that is, the prediction that public debt as a percentage of GDP will rise without limit &#8212; is the assumption about what will happen to interest rates, in relation to economic growth. Roughly speaking,\u00a0if the interest rate on debt (<em>r<\/em>) is greater than the rate of GDP growth (<em>g<\/em>), the debt ratio will rise &#8220;unsustainably&#8221; (without limit). If, on the other hand, <em>g\u00a0<\/em>&gt;\u00a0<em>r<\/em>, then even running a fairly healthy budget deficit every year is consistent with a stable or even falling debt ratio.<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the historical data,\u00a0Scott Fullwiler observed that the long-run historical average shows that <em>g<\/em> tends to be greater than <em>r<\/em>. The exception appears to be the 1979-2000 period (see Fullwiler&#8217;s charts below), &#8220;where the Fed &#8230; was most concerned about squeezing inflation out of the economy&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent\/fullwiler_25th-minsky_interest-rates-and-growth-rates\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13193\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13193\" src=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates.png\" alt=\"Fullwiler_25th Minsky_Interest Rates and Growth Rates\" width=\"500\" height=\"265\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates.png 1209w, https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates-300x159.png 300w, https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates-1024x542.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/dear-time-magazine-readers-the-united-states-is-not-insolvent\/fullwiler_25th-minsky_interest-rates-and-growth-rates-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13194\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13194\" src=\"http:\/\/multiplier-effect.org\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates-2.png\" alt=\"Fullwiler_25th Minsky_Interest Rates and Growth Rates 2\" width=\"500\" height=\"318\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates-2.png 889w, https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/files\/2016\/04\/Fullwiler_25th-Minsky_Interest-Rates-and-Growth-Rates-2-300x191.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The interest rates on the national debt generally follow monetary policy, not the size of the deficits and things like that,&#8221; Fullwiler observed. &#8220;So what&#8217;s really normalization? Normalization is probably having the interest rate below GDP growth rather than necessarily moving back to a Taylor rule.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And beyond the\u00a0historical data, Bob Barbera argued\u00a0earlier in the day that it&#8217;s hard to reconcile the CBO&#8217;s interest rate projections with what they are saying will happen to GDP growth and inflation over the same period (returning to a theme he discussed two Minsky conferences ago). Read this\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/cfe.econ.jhu.edu\/2016\/02\/still-crazy-after-all-these-years\/\">recent roundup<\/a> by Barbera&#8217;s colleague Jon Faust. When you assume an interest rate more in line with the rest of the economic projections, Barbera pointed out, the popular story\u00a0about ever-rising public debt fizzles out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is apparently the latest cover of Time magazine: The idea that the US government or the nation as a whole is &#8220;insolvent&#8221; has an undying appeal. The fear of (or yearning for) some manner\u00a0of\u00a0budget\u00a0crisis has waned somewhat over the last couple of years (one hopes\u00a0this is\u00a0due\u00a0to the fact that\u00a0most people alive today have never [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":202,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[49],"tags":[74,448,154,822,289,452],"class_list":["post-13088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fiscal-policy","tag-budget-deficit","tag-debt-crisis","tag-interest-rates","tag-public-debt","tag-sectoral-balances","tag-stephanie-kelton"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13088","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/202"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13088"}],"version-history":[{"count":67,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13088\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13209,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13088\/revisions\/13209"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13088"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13088"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.bard.edu\/multiplier-effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13088"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}